User talk:19h00s

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FOP Categorization

Hi, thanks for your work on FOP categorization. However, please remember to add <noinclude></noinclude> for the FOP category so that the FOP category will not include the daily DR page. A1Cafel (talk) 04:51, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

File:New York Earth Room in 2024.jpg

File:New York Earth Room in 2024.jpg has been nominated for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:New York Earth Room in 2024.jpg This is a deletion request for the community to discuss whether the nominated page should be kept or deleted. Please voice your opinion in the linked request above. Thank you very much! If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Found5dollar (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been nominated for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Melvin Edwards This is a deletion request for the community to discuss whether the nominated contents should be kept or deleted. Please voice your opinion in the linked request above. Thank you very much! If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Equal Memories 1970-2022, Melvin Edwards, Dia Beacon.jpg

And also:

• File:Gonogo 1970-2022, Melvin Edwards, Dia Beacon 1.jpg
• File:Gonogo 1970-2022, Melvin Edwards, Dia Beacon 2.jpg
• File:Gonogo 1970-2022, Melvin Edwards, Dia Beacon 3.jpg

Yours sincerely, 19h00s (talk) 20:11, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Autopatroller

Hi, I have granted you the Autopatroller right. Thanks for your contributions. Yann (talk) 17:42, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

Empty subcats of Category:Candy works by Félix González-Torres

Hi. It looks you either created a bunch of subcats for Category:Candy works by Félix González-Torres that you either never put images in or where they ended up getting deleted. I assume it's the former, but regardless, categories should only exist if and/or until there's images to put in them. So can you please not create categories that you don't have images for next time? Or at least nominate them for deletion once they are emptied for whatever reason if that's what happened here since I assume they are on your watch list? Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:55, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

@Adamant1 Oh shoot apologies, I was creating categories for works in the artist's output that are already on Commons or can be hosted on Commons; didn't realize it was inappropriate to pre-create categories that will eventually have files. Only about 1/3 of the categories I created for this artist are empty and this is the only artist I pre-created categories for, I can nominate the empty ones for deletion for now. 19h00s (talk) 00:30, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

OK. No worries. Thanks for at least nominating them for deletion. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:41, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Ironically i used to be fine with the usage of the template but the recent attempts to apply PD-automated to police bodycameras is just obnoxious. At this point we are just redefining the scope to suit our needs--Trade (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

Commons:WMF_support_for_Commons/WikiLegal_for_Commons#Justifications_and_validity_of_the_current_uses_of_PD-automated

Hope you don't mind me stealing your quotes Trade (talk) 22:23, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade No worries, glad to be of service. Though I think you may have misattributed the second quote - I know I didn't write that, I believe Veggies did. 19h00s (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Just keep in mind the discussion applies to the US only. I don't know if that is an outcome you and Veggies would be happy with--Trade (talk) 22:57, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Videos by Cartoon Network India

Is there any other YouTube channels releasing videos onto CC BY 3.0 whose videos you want deleted? Or is this just a one-time thing? Trade (talk) 01:45, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

@Trade I don't make a habit of digging through all the various videos on Commons sourced from YouTube, so I can't really say either way. My main concern is with foreign subsidiaries to be honest, particularly those where the subsidiary is using a freer license than the parent company for the same content. Those are the cases where it is most likely that the republishing party is legally a separate entity from the parent company/IP owner, and thus may not have the legal authority to freely license the content (just like Vogue Taiwan/Condé Nast, many foreign subsidiaries of multinational companies are legally separate and sign licensing deals with the parent company in order to use the parent company's content, deals which often spell out limits on the subsidiary's rights over the IP).

But to be clear, I'm not taking this position and making noise to be a stick in the mud or make anyone's life more difficult. I just truly believe we should be applying the precautionary principle in situations like this. 19h00s (talk) 04:00, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

That still leaves open the question as to why the subsidiaries are using that license on their videos in the first place Trade (talk) 04:45, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

@Trade I was pilloried by other users when I theorized about motivation in the Vogue Taiwan case, so I'm not sure it's productive to make guesses about intent. If I were a gambler though, I would bet that a digital staffer at Cartoon Network India either a) made a mistake in their account settings, b) misunderstood what the license settings meant, or c) turned on the CC license setting as a test and saw higher engagement with freely licensed content, so they applied it to all their videos to boost numbers without understanding what that choice really meant. The legal teams that handle licensing and copyright in media companies like this are often incredibly siloed from the front-line staffers who are uploading or broadcasting content, and most media companies are more worried about third parties mis-using their IP, not their own employees or subsidiaries. So it makes total sense to me that a CNI staffer wouldn't have in-depth knowledge of what these licenses actually mean and that the WBD licensing team wouldn't have noticed the discrepancy with the licenses until someone pointed it out to them (and as I noted on the Village Pump, we should probably not expect an answer from the WBD licensing team anytime soon given the amount of work that landed on their plate at the exact moment we needed to reach out). 19h00s (talk) 14:34, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

"gotcha" license situation

I can sympathize with your sentiment but at the same time Commons do have to find a balance between not exploiting copyright holders for their mistakes but at the same time we also have to respect the fact that the Creative Commons license is unrevocable. Any idea as to how we can do that?--Trade (talk) 23:40, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Trade A) I appreciate that you changed this message. I almost didn't post the Cartoon Network response because I felt very uncomfortable with their offer and their assumption that I was trying to "protect" their brand. If I'm trying to protect anything, it's Commons and re-users of content hosted on Commons. But no, I did not accept the offer - I specifically declined it.

B) I don't know that there is a satisfying solution here. It's something I've thought about a lot, and I've never been able to come to a conclusion that feels respectful to both rightsholders and the integrity of CC licensing. It's just not an easy circle to square. 19h00s (talk) 01:49, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

I dont believe a single user have been judging you negatively because of CN's response. You are overthinking it Trade (talk) 02:13, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Do you think CN would be open to have at least a few select of their videos in Creative Commons?--Trade (talk) 03:50, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

I didn't ask in my message about releasing content - I just asked whether the licenses were "purposeful, authorized, and valid" for the content in question. I don't really have much interest in trying to convince them to do it (seems like it would require a lot of work and persuasion), but I do think the outcome of this situation is a step in the right direction, as companies are much less likely to engage willingly with the free culture movement if they feel they've been burned by it, so to speak. So, by respecting their assertion that these licenses were mistaken/invalid, we are showing them a willingness to engage in good faith and that we're not just out here taking whatever we can get without applying critical logic. That could certainly be the first foot in the door for a conversation about releasing select content under CC licenses. But again, I leave that to others to dwell on and follow up with. 19h00s (talk) 19:44, 14 December 2025 (UTC)